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Am I An Evangelical Christian

“I love words. I thank you for hearing my words. I want to tell you something about words that I uh, I think is important. I love..as I say, they’re my work, they’re my play, they’re my passion. Words are all we have really. We have thoughts, but thoughts are fluid. You know, [humming]. And, then we assign a word to a thought, [clicks tongue]. And we’re stuck with that word for that thought. So be careful with words. I like to think, yeah, the same words that hurt can heal. It’s a matter of how you pick them.” George Carlin, Seven Deadly Words

Recently I asked, “When does a word stop meaning what it used to mean?”  The responses I got were varied.

“often, when a secondary definition reaches critical mass. the tipping point is that its primary definition swaps place, and dies out over time.”

“When your attorney gets involved.” (my favorite)

“when the new meaning holds meaning to you, no matter how large a group – a good example is the word “pimp” – for our parents, it has one meaning – for us, it has another meaning – and for our kids, who knows :)

“when it becomes popular”

Like Carlin, I have made a living out of words.  I love getting to the deeper meaning of words and have spent my life learning to craft the use of words.  So I was having a conversation the other day with a friend around the word, “Evangelical.”  When is someone definitively an evangelical or not? Much of the hub-bub over Emergence is, from my perspective, a fight for the soul of evangelicalism.

I would argue that the tension in the evangelical church revolves around the basic understanding of an atonement.  How can a loving God demand the sacrifice of His own son to appease his own sense of justice regarding human sin?  This theory of atonement is called “Penal Substitutionary Atonement Theory.” It was first espoused by Anselm of Canterbury and deepened by John Calvin’s use of the law to radicalize the “penalty” element.  In virtually all the conversations I’ve ever had within a cohort, conference, or with people struggling with God, it can be boiled down to a tension with this theory.  Because if the theory is true, it creates a strange tension within the Christian story.

Yet I remember the moment, standing in a cheap hotel room in Lake Tahoe, when I realized the basic framework that would become my book.  Humanity was demanding the sacrifice, not God. And yet I instinctively realized that if I let go of the old theory, I was in essence leaving my roots behind.  I was venturing into uncharted territory regarding my own faith. I was buying into something that I felt was more in line with the actual story.

I’m very comfortable in my own perspective, having spent countless hours reconciling and working through my own faith, but I recognize that we’re often searching for the meaning of words.  So my question is this.  From your perspective, am I an evangelical Christian? I’m asking for your perspective, so don’t be shy.  Is holding a specific belief about the cross in a specific way a requirement for being an Evangelical Christian? If you are not comfortable sharing your own thoughts about it (and I get that) then perhaps share what you think those who are evangelical would say.

What say you?

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Jonathan BrinkI am an business development and communications consultant. I am also the senior editor and publisher for Civitas Press. I recently published, Discovering The God Imagination: Reconstructing A Whole, New Christianity. (Civitas, 2011)View all posts by Jonathan Brink →

  • David

    Jonathan, I do hold to the atonement in all it’s aspects. That is why I believe how God defines Love. Not that we Love God but that he Loved us and sent His son to die for us. rnrnI can not explain the judgement of a Holy God. Why he would kill a person that is trying to keep the Arc of the Covenant from falling for example. There is a lot of tension between the Scriptures on a number of subjects, even such things as if you can lose your salvation. There seems to be some words that may in fact indicate this and there are others that assure us. But there is a tension there I think. rnrnI know God is a Just God. He’s a Judging God. There is something else at work and it’s a consequence of sin. If sin could affect the entire world, His creation and His people then the issue of the enemy of God, Death and Satan, have a tremendous power and influence over us in such a way that God in His Love demonstrated this love towards us by His death. It shows us a victory over the grave, a Loving God, Hope in the Resurection, that this world is not our own, and a host of other things God has provided to us as a result of His Death in Jesus. rnrnNow does your stance on the atonement mena your not evangelical? I don’t think so. Of course I may not be a good one to ask since I’m not a person who knows the word inside and out and the deeper meanings. To me a person who is evangelical is a person who holds a high view of scripture, believes in the death and resurection of Jesus, a God who Loves us, even though we were sinners, someone who will share the Gospel as he / she lives out life. In short someone who Loves God and Loves people and themselves as well. Someone who has a sence of and a heart for Missions both local and cross cultural. Who is willing to be a sender and a goer. rnrnNot sure if any of this makes any sence but I hope it does.

    • http://paradigmshift-jmac.blogspot.com/ Joe Machuta

      unfortunately, since I consider myself evangelical to a degree I am afraid that to most people evangelical means; exclusive, judgmental, intolerant, dogmatic and conservative.

  • http://openmindedconversations.blogspot.com/ jshmueller

    “Evangelical” is definitely one of those words that has lost its original meaning. Historically, just like the word “Christian”, it wasn’t self-chosen by those who first embodied the movement. But it marked an attempt to recover authentic Christianity at a time where a living and active faith appeared to have been replaced by dead orthodoxy and a mere label. rnrnIronically, today the term is heard by many as a clarion call to return to orthodoxy in the midst of a perceived culture war. So who really gets to decide what “evangelical” ought to mean or whether it’s still usefull without a page-long appendix to clarify what we actually mean?rnrnIn my personal appreciation of what was and still is good about the word when it’s taken at face value concerning its root, you’re still an evangelical. And I would base that opinion on 3 observations: rnrn1. You are committed to radically ask the question: how does the story inform our faith? I think that’s the right question to ask when it comes to the rationale and value of biblical authority.rnrn2. Your focus is on the “good” of the good news. I don’t think someone can be an evangelical without being crucicentrist. And your particular interpretation of how the goodness of God is displayed in the cross only reinforces the centrality of the atonement to help us understand what we’re being saved from and how we’re being saved.rnrn3. Evangelicals care about people and their destiny. And the evangelistic zeal to see people’s lives transformed from the inside out is grounded in the personal experience of the goodness of the gospel itself. I see that same passion in you.

  • Lizdyer

    I wouldn’t label you as “evangelical” – or myself either, although like you, that is my roots. We can talk about what the original meaning was or what generous evangelical’s like David believe but in general it seems to represent a pretty narrow path that does not allow for exploring new ideas about atonement and salvation. At least that is my impression from spending many years in the evangelical community – although I haven’t spent much time in that community in the last 3 or 4 years, so I guess there is a chance that it has changed. nnI also think of evangelical being aligned with the religious right.

  • Lizdyer

    I hate it when I reread a comment and notice an error I made – it should have been evangelicals (plural) not evangelical’s (possessive). arghhhh

  • Rooney Sarah

    Well, there is such a variety of definitions for “evangelical” (depending on the group defining the term), that it’s hard to say. I read that “Evangelical” was derived from the Greek word “euangelion” which means: “gospel” or “good news.” If we are using this bare-bones definition, then yes – you are a “good news Christian.” But in the North American context, the word is often used to describe a mainstream, traditional, conservative culture within Christendom. And I wouldn’t consider you to be part of the culture and its paradigm.

  • HJMiller

    As Liz pointed out, the term “evangelical” has come to mean something negative in our culture today. But I think it still fits. I haven’t finished your book and am not sure where you stand on the inerrancy of Scripture, but most Evangelicals today are considered to be those who believe in (or at least, whose churches teach) the inerrancy of the Bible (and lean more toward literal interpretations) and the spreading of the Gospel/proselytizing, which has become largely synonymous with “fundamentalist”, “religious right”, “bigot/homophobe”, “intolerant”, “close-minded”, even “dangerous (a la Dawkins)”. I don’t like to see myself that way, but as long as I support a church who’s members generally want to limit the rights of others and deny science based on literal interpretations of Scripture, it’s pretty hard for me to gain any ground informing people otherwise. nnYou seem to be more liberal in your interpretations of Scripture, though, than most Evangelicals. The Biblical and Theological hermeneutics used by the majority of Evangelicals at places like Bethel would not allow for some of the conclusions you draw. To the point that I think some will say you misinterpret Scripture. This potentially has the same effect as not believing in the inerrancy of Scripture because it allows other, possibly wrong beliefs to be held. If your interpretations allow for a different enough view than that held by the majority of Evangelicals, it could be an insufficient label, on its own, at least. You may be an Evangelical in your own mind and truly be one, by definition, but your message may be different enough that it would be a confusing label without some other word to go with it. A “something or other” Evangelical label may be on the horizon.

    • http://jonathanbrink.com Jonathan Brink

      HJ, it’s interesting comparing our assumption of what “Evangelical” has become as opposed to what Sarah suggested above, which meant “good news”.

  • Marian

    What do I think evangelicals would say? Probably not! What do I say? The label does not matter. What does matter in my opinion is a. that we all agree God loves us and Jesus showed us that love by His life and death, reconciling us our original design and purpose. b. that we reflect and mirror that love to others, not just sharing the good news but living it!

  • http://hyman58.wordpress.com/ David Hyman

    I like David Bebbington’s definition of Evangelical: nn> Biblicism – Through the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, the God who is objectively ‘there’ has revealed universal and eternal truth to humankind in such a way that all can grasp it.nn>Christocentrism – God’s eternal Word became human in the historical man Jesus of Nazareth, who definitively reveals God to humanity.nn>Crucicentrism – The good news of God’s revelation in Christ is seen supremely in the cross, where atonement was made for people of every race, tribe and tongue.nn>Conversionism – The truth of the eternal gospel must be appropriated in personal faith, which comes through repentance – that is, a discernible reorientation of the sinner’s mind and heart towards God.nn>Activism – Gospel truth must be demonstrated in evangelism and social servicennI guess the question for you is bullet number 2. So what happened on the cross?

    • http://jonathanbrink.com Jonathan Brink

      David, thanks for popping in. I don’t think I’ve seen a comment from you yet.nnI realize that we use language to be specific but I love simple words, even when I cant’ find them. So David’s definition is concrete and I can’t find anything I would agree with, yet I wouldn’t try and teach that to my 8 year old son. ;-) nnAnd to answer your question, I believe what is happening on the cross IS the most important component of our faith. So much so that I wrote a book on it. ;-Pnnhttp://jonathanbrink.com/books/discovering-the-god-imagination/

  • http://openmindedconversations.blogspot.com/ jshmueller

    I’ve thought about your question some more and would like to point out the reason why your theology probably would NOT qualify as evangelical in the mind of most evangelicals.rnrnIf I understand evangelicalism correctly, Jesus’ statement “you must be born again” is seen as the very core of true Christianity. It basically divides humanity into the saved and the unsaved, the regenerate and the unregenerate, and the latter group goes to hell unless they hear the message, turn over their lives and in that act receive the Holy Spirit and become a child of God. Its a transition from being “out” to being “in” in God’s sight.rnrnYour own understanding of spiritual rebirth contradicts the evangelical understanding insofar as the understanding of “being out” happens exclusively on the human end, and the Spirit simply helps us to see that in God’s perspective we’ve always been “in” and always have been seen and treated as His children. “Rebirth” describes the ability to see and live the truth that has always been there.rnrnIn the mind of typical evangelicals, it would deny everything they’ve been trained to “see” in Scripture: being unacceptable and under God’s wrath because of sin, the cross as a necessity to remove this wrath of God and become acceptable to Him, the act of conversion as an actual ontological change that changes our status before God and assures us of eternal life in heaven.rnrnI guess from THAT perspective, you’re about as far away from evangelicalism as a person can get, and in my mind this is not a bad thing.

    • http://jonathanbrink.com Jonathan Brink

      I’ve thought a lot about that Josh, that nature of salvation. And here’s what shifted for me. In order for someone to offer the gift of salvation it must already be true. When we approach someone, we’re offering Good News that is already true. nnIf it’s not, the act of salvation becomes contingent upon the individual and thus a work. Belief must be extremely specific, and determined. The problem is that Scripture talks about belief but provides no basis for an objective belief statement. nnIf the event of salvation is dependent upon our belief, then we can in essence change what is true in the universe. This is a ridiculously absurd stretch for me to make. But if the act of belief is not changing anything cosmic, but something local, it makes total sense to me.nnI’ve wrestled through this idea for a long time and recognized that making this shift would put me at odds with my own traditions. But in the end I made the choice that reconciling the Gospel was more important to me than holding onto beliefs that didn’t reconcile.

  • RepentandTrustJesusChrist

    This is my perspective – you are not evangelical at all if you do not hold to the atonement of Christ, in fact you are still a lost person on your way to Hell, you are still spiritually blind and need to be regenerated by God’s Holy Spirit so you can see your real need for the crucified and risen Christ. You are still living in a fantasy world until God’s love breaks through…nnhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89-3_kIRDAnnP.S. – just remember you said do not be shy.

    • http://jonathanbrink.com Jonathan Brink

      RTJC, thanks for being open and answering from your perspective. You do make one false assumption about me. I do believe in the atonement of Christ. I just don’t believe in the in Calvin’s Penal sense.nnAnd throwing out a little Keith Green. Love it.

      • RepentandTrustJesusChrist

        Okay, I was not too sure what you actually believe, you article was confusing. You said “Humanity was demanding the sacrifice, not God”, this does not make any sense, since we humans broke God’s law. Since God is the Judge of the law breakers, He is the one that demands the sacrifice. God is holy, He cannot just forgive people of their sins, justice must be satisfied, somebody has to pay. Adam sinned, therefore the sacrifice had to be man, and perfect, the only person that is both is the Lord Jesus Christ, the God-man.nn

  • Cheryl Ensom Dack

    According to Merriam Webster’s definition, evangelicalism is defined by: rnrn”emphasizing salvation by faith in the atoning death of Jesus Christ through personal conversion, the authority of Scripture, and the importance of preaching as contrasted with ritual.”rnrnSo based on what I know about you (I’m reading your book and have less than two chapters to go), I would say that you are not evangelical, at least not in the strictest sense. However, I think it can be argued that you are simply going back to the Biblical narrative and REDEFINING things like “atonement,” “reconciliation,” and “evangelize.” As Jshmueller pointed out, you talk about the “good news,” but it is not the same good news that an evangelical would traditionally define it as. If the origins of the concept of evangelizing are actually Jesus’ Great Commission (“go into all the world and spread the good news…”) a case could be made that you are returning to the ORIGINAL “good news,” before it got all mixed up with religion again. rnrnI think that the answer to your question entirely depends on who is answering! To an “evangelical,” the answer would be “no,” I suspect. To someone like me who is reading/watching from a spot outside traditional religion, I’d say you might be more evangelical than the evangelicals.

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