Comments on: Straight From The Horses Mouth http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45 Business Development & Communications Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Davidlitwin11 http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-4197 Davidlitwin11 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:59:00 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-4197 I believe it is possible, if the church focuses it effort on influencing its members to positive change, both socially (if not more important) and evangelistically. The church is the catalyst for impact through its membership - not through its teaching, and CERTAINLY not through its morality. This is because there is no other domain in which everyone from the major Spheres of influence gather on a week to week basis with (hopefully) the same heart. Should the church mobilize its congregation across all the vocational domains (arts, sciences, education, media, medicine, etc) for Christ-Like cultural transformation, it would become the hope of the world. Not through its words... but through its actions. The polarization of Morality will, and is producing the exact opposite in our culture today. I agree, Jesus is the hope of the world, but people see Jesus through the lives and actions of His ambassadors.  I believe it is possible, if the church focuses it effort on influencing its members to positive change, both socially (if not more important) and evangelistically. The church is the catalyst for impact through its membership – not through its teaching, and CERTAINLY not through its morality. This is because there is no other domain in which everyone from the major Spheres of influence gather on a week to week basis with (hopefully) the same heart. Should the church mobilize its congregation across all the vocational domains (arts, sciences, education, media, medicine, etc) for Christ-Like cultural transformation, it would become the hope of the world. Not through its words… but through its actions. The polarization of Morality will, and is producing the exact opposite in our culture today.

I agree, Jesus is the hope of the world, but people see Jesus through the lives and actions of His ambassadors. 

]]> By: Davidlitwin11 http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-4196 Davidlitwin11 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 11:59:00 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-4196 I believe it is possible, if the church focuses it effort on influencing its members to positive change, both socially (if not more important) and evangelistically. The church is the catalyst for impact through its membership - not through its teaching, and CERTAINLY not through its morality. This is because there is no other domain in which everyone from the major Spheres of influence gather on a week to week basis with (hopefully) the same heart. Should the church mobilize its congregation across all the vocational domains (arts, sciences, education, media, medicine, etc) for Christ-Like cultural transformation, it would become the hope of the world. Not through its words... but through its actions. The polarization of Morality will, and is producing the exact opposite in our culture today. I agree, Jesus is the hope of the world, but people see Jesus through the lives and actions of His ambassadors.  I believe it is possible, if the church focuses it effort on influencing its members to positive change, both socially (if not more important) and evangelistically. The church is the catalyst for impact through its membership – not through its teaching, and CERTAINLY not through its morality. This is because there is no other domain in which everyone from the major Spheres of influence gather on a week to week basis with (hopefully) the same heart. Should the church mobilize its congregation across all the vocational domains (arts, sciences, education, media, medicine, etc) for Christ-Like cultural transformation, it would become the hope of the world. Not through its words… but through its actions. The polarization of Morality will, and is producing the exact opposite in our culture today.

I agree, Jesus is the hope of the world, but people see Jesus through the lives and actions of His ambassadors. 

]]> By: jshmueller http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-630 jshmueller Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:18:48 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-630 No, I don't agree with the way Bill Hybels worded it. But I think it's worthwhile exploring the significance of sound ecclesiology and the role and impact of leaders within the local congregation. So I'd rather word it this way:<br><br>The hope of the world is Jesus. The primary agents to bring Jesus to the world are the members of the body of Christ. And the leaders within the local church are playing a key role in motivating and equipping those members to do just that. No, I don't agree with the way Bill Hybels worded it. But I think it's worthwhile exploring the significance of sound ecclesiology and the role and impact of leaders within the local congregation. So I'd rather word it this way:

The hope of the world is Jesus. The primary agents to bring Jesus to the world are the members of the body of Christ. And the leaders within the local church are playing a key role in motivating and equipping those members to do just that.

]]> By: jshmueller http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-1421 jshmueller Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:18:48 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-1421 No, I don't agree with the way Bill Hybels worded it. But I think it's worthwhile exploring the significance of sound ecclesiology and the role and impact of leaders within the local congregation. So I'd rather word it this way:<br><br>The hope of the world is Jesus. The primary agents to bring Jesus to the world are the members of the body of Christ. And the leaders within the local church are playing a key role in motivating and equipping those members to do just that. No, I don't agree with the way Bill Hybels worded it. But I think it's worthwhile exploring the significance of sound ecclesiology and the role and impact of leaders within the local congregation. So I'd rather word it this way:

The hope of the world is Jesus. The primary agents to bring Jesus to the world are the members of the body of Christ. And the leaders within the local church are playing a key role in motivating and equipping those members to do just that.

]]> By: kinnon http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-629 kinnon Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:25:54 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-629 I wouldn't buy it, but could I rent it for the weekend? :-)<br><br>I will not question Hybels' heart, but I am convinced Bill and the WCA have hastened the decline of the church in the west - overemphasizing leaders rather than the priesthood of all believers. I wouldn't buy it, but could I rent it for the weekend? :-)

I will not question Hybels' heart, but I am convinced Bill and the WCA have hastened the decline of the church in the west – overemphasizing leaders rather than the priesthood of all believers.

]]> By: kinnon http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-1422 kinnon Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:25:54 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-1422 I wouldn't buy it, but could I rent it for the weekend? :-)<br><br>I will not question Hybels' heart, but I am convinced Bill and the WCA have hastened the decline of the church in the west - overemphasizing leaders rather than the priesthood of all believers. I wouldn't buy it, but could I rent it for the weekend? :-)

I will not question Hybels' heart, but I am convinced Bill and the WCA have hastened the decline of the church in the west – overemphasizing leaders rather than the priesthood of all believers.

]]> By: Tyler Braun http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-628 Tyler Braun Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:26:32 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-628 I've heard him say the first half of that quote TONS of times, but never the 2nd half. I would say if it is true, it is probably from a leadership summit conference, which would provide a little better context. I've heard him say the first half of that quote TONS of times, but never the 2nd half. I would say if it is true, it is probably from a leadership summit conference, which would provide a little better context.

]]> By: Tyler Braun http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-1423 Tyler Braun Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:26:32 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-1423 I've heard him say the first half of that quote TONS of times, but never the 2nd half. I would say if it is true, it is probably from a leadership summit conference, which would provide a little better context. I've heard him say the first half of that quote TONS of times, but never the 2nd half. I would say if it is true, it is probably from a leadership summit conference, which would provide a little better context.

]]> By: brambonius http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-627 brambonius Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:53:51 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-627 did Hybels say that? That's a dangerous statement, and it puts a lot of burden on the shoulders of those poor leaders... We all should incarnate the Kingdom and be the church I guess... And leaders should be the ones coaching us to grow more in discipleship. So that we all together can be the hope of the world and Jesus' feet and hands in this broken creation. But in the end Jesus, the Christ is the hope of the world... did Hybels say that? That's a dangerous statement, and it puts a lot of burden on the shoulders of those poor leaders… We all should incarnate the Kingdom and be the church I guess… And leaders should be the ones coaching us to grow more in discipleship. So that we all together can be the hope of the world and Jesus' feet and hands in this broken creation. But in the end Jesus, the Christ is the hope of the world…

]]> By: brambonius http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/03/05/straight-from-the-horses-mouth-45/#comment-1424 brambonius Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:53:51 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=333#comment-1424 did Hybels say that? That's a dangerous statement, and it puts a lot of burden on the shoulders of those poor leaders... We all should incarnate the Kingdom and be the church I guess... And leaders should be the ones coaching us to grow more in discipleship. So that we all together can be the hope of the world and Jesus' feet and hands in this broken creation. But in the end Jesus, the Christ is the hope of the world... did Hybels say that? That's a dangerous statement, and it puts a lot of burden on the shoulders of those poor leaders… We all should incarnate the Kingdom and be the church I guess… And leaders should be the ones coaching us to grow more in discipleship. So that we all together can be the hope of the world and Jesus' feet and hands in this broken creation. But in the end Jesus, the Christ is the hope of the world…

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