Comments on: What Are You Chosen To Suffer For http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for Business Development & Communications Tue, 15 May 2012 08:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Willem Kooijman http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-505 Willem Kooijman Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:31:27 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-505 In my opinion the Bible is very vague as regards the question why all people have to suffer. Also as regards the question if suffering is meaningful: does it serve a purpose?<br>The Bible mentions a number of causes and a number of forms of suffering:<br>-- pure bad luck: being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Let us say: being killed by a falling tree<br>-- suffering that is caused by Satan and his devils. Many Bible verses point to the fact that it is their ultimate purpose to make people suffer and even kill them<br>-- suffering that is caused by God. Often as a form of punishment. Think of the times when the Jews were oppressed by neighbouring nations when they had been disobeying God. Think of their 70 years of being banished in Babylon.<br>-- suffering that human beings cause other human beings: the things that are forbidden in the 10 commandments: stealing, killing, committing adultery<br><br>However this may be: numerous Bible verses promise a new Kingdom that God will establish at the end of our human history and where suffering will not exist any more. In God's future Kingdom all the people that will be admitted into it will live for ever in perfect happiness. In my opinion the Bible is very vague as regards the question why all people have to suffer. Also as regards the question if suffering is meaningful: does it serve a purpose?
The Bible mentions a number of causes and a number of forms of suffering:
– pure bad luck: being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Let us say: being killed by a falling tree
– suffering that is caused by Satan and his devils. Many Bible verses point to the fact that it is their ultimate purpose to make people suffer and even kill them
– suffering that is caused by God. Often as a form of punishment. Think of the times when the Jews were oppressed by neighbouring nations when they had been disobeying God. Think of their 70 years of being banished in Babylon.
– suffering that human beings cause other human beings: the things that are forbidden in the 10 commandments: stealing, killing, committing adultery

However this may be: numerous Bible verses promise a new Kingdom that God will establish at the end of our human history and where suffering will not exist any more. In God's future Kingdom all the people that will be admitted into it will live for ever in perfect happiness.

]]> By: Willem Kooijman http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-1455 Willem Kooijman Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:31:27 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-1455 In my opinion the Bible is very vague as regards the question why all people have to suffer. Also as regards the question if suffering is meaningful: does it serve a purpose?<br>The Bible mentions a number of causes and a number of forms of suffering:<br>-- pure bad luck: being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Let us say: being killed by a falling tree<br>-- suffering that is caused by Satan and his devils. Many Bible verses point to the fact that it is their ultimate purpose to make people suffer and even kill them<br>-- suffering that is caused by God. Often as a form of punishment. Think of the times when the Jews were oppressed by neighbouring nations when they had been disobeying God. Think of their 70 years of being banished in Babylon.<br>-- suffering that human beings cause other human beings: the things that are forbidden in the 10 commandments: stealing, killing, committing adultery<br><br>However this may be: numerous Bible verses promise a new Kingdom that God will establish at the end of our human history and where suffering will not exist any more. In God's future Kingdom all the people that will be admitted into it will live for ever in perfect happiness. In my opinion the Bible is very vague as regards the question why all people have to suffer. Also as regards the question if suffering is meaningful: does it serve a purpose?
The Bible mentions a number of causes and a number of forms of suffering:
– pure bad luck: being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Let us say: being killed by a falling tree
– suffering that is caused by Satan and his devils. Many Bible verses point to the fact that it is their ultimate purpose to make people suffer and even kill them
– suffering that is caused by God. Often as a form of punishment. Think of the times when the Jews were oppressed by neighbouring nations when they had been disobeying God. Think of their 70 years of being banished in Babylon.
– suffering that human beings cause other human beings: the things that are forbidden in the 10 commandments: stealing, killing, committing adultery

However this may be: numerous Bible verses promise a new Kingdom that God will establish at the end of our human history and where suffering will not exist any more. In God's future Kingdom all the people that will be admitted into it will live for ever in perfect happiness.

]]> By: Dave Lloyd http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-504 Dave Lloyd Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:11:56 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-504 Profound stuff, Jonathon. I've often said that we cannot help asking 'why we suffer,' but that that it is generally an exercise in futility as we are rarely sure of the answer. Asking 'who we suffer for' not only gives meaning as you pointed out, but it is less selfish, less inwardly focused. Communal rather than individual. Thanks for insights. Profound stuff, Jonathon. I've often said that we cannot help asking 'why we suffer,' but that that it is generally an exercise in futility as we are rarely sure of the answer. Asking 'who we suffer for' not only gives meaning as you pointed out, but it is less selfish, less inwardly focused. Communal rather than individual. Thanks for insights.

]]> By: Dave Lloyd http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-1456 Dave Lloyd Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:11:56 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-1456 Profound stuff, Jonathon. I've often said that we cannot help asking 'why we suffer,' but that that it is generally an exercise in futility as we are rarely sure of the answer. Asking 'who we suffer for' not only gives meaning as you pointed out, but it is less selfish, less inwardly focused. Communal rather than individual. Thanks for insights. Profound stuff, Jonathon. I've often said that we cannot help asking 'why we suffer,' but that that it is generally an exercise in futility as we are rarely sure of the answer. Asking 'who we suffer for' not only gives meaning as you pointed out, but it is less selfish, less inwardly focused. Communal rather than individual. Thanks for insights.

]]> By: Jonathan Brink http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-503 Jonathan Brink Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:44:37 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-503 Thanks Jeff. Thanks Jeff.

]]> By: Jonathan Brink http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-1458 Jonathan Brink Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:44:37 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-1458 Thanks Jeff. Thanks Jeff.

]]> By: jeff_goins http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-502 jeff_goins Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:17:01 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-502 Wow. Great post. Amen. Wow. Great post. Amen.

]]> By: Jeff Goins http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/25/what-are-you-chosen-to-suffer-for/#comment-1457 Jeff Goins Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:17:01 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=47#comment-1457 Wow. Great post. Amen. Wow. Great post. Amen.

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