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		<title>By: Seminary</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-489</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do have different perspectives on every topic. I agree with pballard14, women and men should be treated the same way. A true leader is a servant to all, no  questions asked.</description>
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		<title>By: Seminary</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-2027</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do have different perspectives on every topic. I agree with pballard14, women and men should be treated the same way. A true leader is a servant to all, no  questions asked. If you&#039;ll got to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rts.edu/&quot;&gt;seminary&lt;/a&gt;  it will help you understand more the questions that are being raised by Rev. Brink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have different perspectives on every topic. I agree with pballard14, women and men should be treated the same way. A true leader is a servant to all, no  questions asked. If you&#8217;ll got to a <a href="http://www.rts.edu/">seminary</a>  it will help you understand more the questions that are being raised by Rev. Brink</p>
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		<title>By: Seminary</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-1648</link>
		<dc:creator>Seminary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do have different perspectives on every topic. I agree with pballard14, women and men should be treated the same way. A true leader is a servant to all, no  questions asked. If you&#039;ll got to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rts.edu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;seminary&lt;/a&gt;  it will help you understand more the questions that are being raised by Rev. Brink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have different perspectives on every topic. I agree with pballard14, women and men should be treated the same way. A true leader is a servant to all, no  questions asked. If you&#39;ll got to a <a href="http://www.rts.edu/" rel="nofollow">seminary</a>  it will help you understand more the questions that are being raised by Rev. Brink</p>
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		<title>By: aamoslove</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>aamoslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about missing the point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thought the post was about&lt;br&gt;&quot;The Evidence For Women’s Leadership&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the corporate world, leadership, men or women, is fine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In &quot;the Body of Christ&quot; &quot;The Church,&quot; servant is the only way to go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, in the 501 (c) 3, non profit, tax deductible, religious corporation,&lt;br&gt;the IRS calls &quot;The Church&quot; have all the leaders you want.&lt;br&gt;No problem. But...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should we call a corporation &quot;The Church?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those I&#039;ve met that said they were &quot;servant- leaders.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really meant - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They were the &quot;leaders&quot; of the servants.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If a leaders &quot;Title&quot; is not an idol;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just ask them to lay it down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ever ask that of a &quot;Senior Pastor/leader&quot; ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Better have your running shoes on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be blessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about missing the point.</p>
<p>Thought the post was about<br />&#8220;The Evidence For Women’s Leadership&#8221;</p>
<p>In the corporate world, leadership, men or women, is fine.</p>
<p>In &#8220;the Body of Christ&#8221; &#8220;The Church,&#8221; servant is the only way to go.</p>
<p>Now, in the 501 (c) 3, non profit, tax deductible, religious corporation,<br />the IRS calls &#8220;The Church&#8221; have all the leaders you want.<br />No problem. But&#8230;</p>
<p>Should we call a corporation &#8220;The Church?&#8221;</p>
<p>Those I&#39;ve met that said they were &#8220;servant- leaders.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really meant &#8211; </p>
<p>They were the &#8220;leaders&#8221; of the servants.</p>
<p>If a leaders &#8220;Title&#8221; is not an idol;</p>
<p>Just ask them to lay it down.</p>
<p>Ever ask that of a &#8220;Senior Pastor/leader&#8221; <img src='http://jonathanbrink.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Better have your running shoes on.</p>
<p>Be blessed.</p>
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		<title>By: aamoslove</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-1649</link>
		<dc:creator>aamoslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about missing the point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thought the post was about&lt;br&gt;&quot;The Evidence For Women’s Leadership&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the corporate world, leadership, men or women, is fine.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In &quot;the Body of Christ&quot; &quot;The Church,&quot; servant is the only way to go.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, in the 501 (c) 3, non profit, tax deductible, religious corporation,&lt;br&gt;the IRS calls &quot;The Church&quot; have all the leaders you want.&lt;br&gt;No problem. But...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should we call a corporation &quot;The Church?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Those I&#039;ve met that said they were &quot;servant- leaders.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Really meant - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They were the &quot;leaders&quot; of the servants.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If a leaders &quot;Title&quot; is not an idol;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just ask them to lay it down.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ever ask that of a &quot;Senior Pastor/leader&quot; ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Better have your running shoes on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be blessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about missing the point.</p>
<p>Thought the post was about<br />&#8220;The Evidence For Women’s Leadership&#8221;</p>
<p>In the corporate world, leadership, men or women, is fine.</p>
<p>In &#8220;the Body of Christ&#8221; &#8220;The Church,&#8221; servant is the only way to go.</p>
<p>Now, in the 501 (c) 3, non profit, tax deductible, religious corporation,<br />the IRS calls &#8220;The Church&#8221; have all the leaders you want.<br />No problem. But&#8230;</p>
<p>Should we call a corporation &#8220;The Church?&#8221;</p>
<p>Those I&#39;ve met that said they were &#8220;servant- leaders.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really meant &#8211; </p>
<p>They were the &#8220;leaders&#8221; of the servants.</p>
<p>If a leaders &#8220;Title&#8221; is not an idol;</p>
<p>Just ask them to lay it down.</p>
<p>Ever ask that of a &#8220;Senior Pastor/leader&#8221; <img src='http://jonathanbrink.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Better have your running shoes on.</p>
<p>Be blessed.</p>
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		<title>By: aamoslove</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>aamoslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the word adventure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A bold undertaking, where hazards are to be encountered,&lt;br&gt;and the outcome is based on unforeseen events.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A unique undertaking in one&#039;s own personal history,&lt;br&gt;often of a romantic nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the word adventure.</p>
<p>A bold undertaking, where hazards are to be encountered,<br />and the outcome is based on unforeseen events.</p>
<p>A unique undertaking in one&#39;s own personal history,<br />often of a romantic nature.</p>
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		<title>By: aamoslove</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-1650</link>
		<dc:creator>aamoslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the word adventure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A bold undertaking, where hazards are to be encountered,&lt;br&gt;and the outcome is based on unforeseen events.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A unique undertaking in one&#039;s own personal history,&lt;br&gt;often of a romantic nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the word adventure.</p>
<p>A bold undertaking, where hazards are to be encountered,<br />and the outcome is based on unforeseen events.</p>
<p>A unique undertaking in one&#39;s own personal history,<br />often of a romantic nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Brink</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amos, this is becoming an adventure in missing the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amos, this is becoming an adventure in missing the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Brink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amos, this is becoming an adventure in missing the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amos, this is becoming an adventure in missing the point.</p>
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		<title>By: aamoslove</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2010/01/05/the-evidence-for-womens-leadership/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>aamoslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But the ekklesia has a leader. His name is Jesus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why would I want a man or a woman leader.&lt;br&gt;They have both been known to mess up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Bible warns us about leaders.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isaiah 3:12 &lt;br&gt;As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. &lt;br&gt;O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, &lt;br&gt;and destroy the way of thy paths.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isaiah 9:16 &lt;br&gt;For the leaders of this people cause thee to err;  &lt;br&gt;and they that are led of them are destroyed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Micah 3:11 &lt;br&gt;The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof &lt;br&gt;teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Matthew 15:14 &lt;br&gt;Let them alone: they be  blind leaders of the blind. &lt;br&gt;And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leaders. AAARRRRGGGGUUUHHHH.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And Jesus told “His Disciples” NOT&lt;br&gt;to be called “leaders.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why even use the word? Servant worked fine for “His disciples.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If that is our choice, “disciple of Christ” or “leader?” &lt;br&gt;Which one do you choose?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They wanted to make Jesus a King. (Ruler, leader, of the people.)&lt;br&gt;And He ran away. If Jesus could turn down a position, me too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don’t titles become idols and &lt;br&gt;Pastors become masters? (Ezk 14 Idols of the heart.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my experience...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The “position” and “Title” of “leader” will become an idol.&lt;br&gt;It changes people. It changed me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No matter how humble one is... eventually...&lt;br&gt;No matter how serving one is... eventually...&lt;br&gt;No matter how loving one is... eventually...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leader = Exercise Authority = Lord it over = Abuse = Always&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have you considered the ant?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An ant is small and insignificant. Or is it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: &lt;br&gt;Which having &lt;br&gt;no guide, &lt;br&gt;overseer, &lt;br&gt;or ruler, &lt;br&gt;Provideth her meat in the summer, &lt;br&gt;and gathereth her food in the harvest.&lt;br&gt;Proverbs 6:6-9&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Guide - 07101 qatsiyn from 07096  &lt;br&gt;KJV - ruler 4, prince 4, captain 3, guide 1&lt;br&gt;1- chief, commander, dictator.&lt;br&gt;2- ruler (of one in authority)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Overseer - 07860 shoter {sho-tare&#039;}  &lt;br&gt;KJV - officers 23, ruler 1, overseer 1; 25  &lt;br&gt;1- official, officer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ruler - 04910 mashal {maw-shal&#039;} &lt;br&gt;KJV - rule 38, ruler 19, reign 8, &lt;br&gt;dominion 7, governor 4, 81&lt;br&gt;1-to rule, have dominion, reign  &lt;br&gt;2- to exercise dominion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“Jesus had a big enough vision to think small.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Change our vision, think small. &lt;br&gt;Two or three... Who needs a leader?&lt;br&gt;God’s ways higher then our ways. Yes?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just about every seminary of the IC has in it’s mission statement&lt;br&gt;that they are “training leaders.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Jesus told His disciples not to be called leaders.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leader = Exercise Authority = Lord it over = Abuse = Always&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In His Service. By His Grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan</p>
<p>But the ekklesia has a leader. His name is Jesus.</p>
<p>Why would I want a man or a woman leader.<br />They have both been known to mess up.</p>
<p>The Bible warns us about leaders.</p>
<p>Isaiah 3:12 <br />As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. <br />O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, <br />and destroy the way of thy paths.</p>
<p>Isaiah 9:16 <br />For the leaders of this people cause thee to err;  <br />and they that are led of them are destroyed.</p>
<p>Micah 3:11 <br />The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof <br />teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money &#8230;</p>
<p>Matthew 15:14 <br />Let them alone: they be  blind leaders of the blind. <br />And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.</p>
<p>Leaders. AAARRRRGGGGUUUHHHH.</p>
<p>And Jesus told “His Disciples” NOT<br />to be called “leaders.”</p>
<p>Why even use the word? Servant worked fine for “His disciples.”</p>
<p>If that is our choice, “disciple of Christ” or “leader?” <br />Which one do you choose?</p>
<p>They wanted to make Jesus a King. (Ruler, leader, of the people.)<br />And He ran away. If Jesus could turn down a position, me too.</p>
<p>Don’t titles become idols and <br />Pastors become masters? (Ezk 14 Idols of the heart.)</p>
<p>In my experience&#8230;</p>
<p>The “position” and “Title” of “leader” will become an idol.<br />It changes people. It changed me.</p>
<p>No matter how humble one is&#8230; eventually&#8230;<br />No matter how serving one is&#8230; eventually&#8230;<br />No matter how loving one is&#8230; eventually&#8230;</p>
<p>Leader = Exercise Authority = Lord it over = Abuse = Always</p>
<p>Have you considered the ant?</p>
<p>An ant is small and insignificant. Or is it?</p>
<p>Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise: <br />Which having <br />no guide, <br />overseer, <br />or ruler, <br />Provideth her meat in the summer, <br />and gathereth her food in the harvest.<br />Proverbs 6:6-9</p>
<p> Guide &#8211; 07101 qatsiyn from 07096  <br />KJV &#8211; ruler 4, prince 4, captain 3, guide 1<br />1- chief, commander, dictator.<br />2- ruler (of one in authority)</p>
<p>Overseer &#8211; 07860 shoter {sho-tare&#39;}  <br />KJV &#8211; officers 23, ruler 1, overseer 1; 25  <br />1- official, officer.</p>
<p>Ruler &#8211; 04910 mashal {maw-shal&#39;} <br />KJV &#8211; rule 38, ruler 19, reign 8, <br />dominion 7, governor 4, 81<br />1-to rule, have dominion, reign  <br />2- to exercise dominion.</p>
<p>Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise.</p>
<p>“Jesus had a big enough vision to think small.”</p>
<p>Change our vision, think small. <br />Two or three&#8230; Who needs a leader?<br />God’s ways higher then our ways. Yes?</p>
<p>Just about every seminary of the IC has in it’s mission statement<br />that they are “training leaders.”</p>
<p>But Jesus told His disciples not to be called leaders.</p>
<p>Leader = Exercise Authority = Lord it over = Abuse = Always</p>
<p>In His Service. By His Grace.</p>
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