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		<title>By: Jonathan Brink</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous, I hear your comments.  I think it is a little disingenuous to take a swipe like that behind the veil of Anonymous, but hey if that&#039;s what you need to do then so be it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is my blog.  It even has my name in the URL. It is a space that I pay for to post my thoughts on my journey.  It is where I work out my own salvation.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What you may not realize is that this conversation of labels is one of the more important conversations in the postmodern era.  What I was doing, in a seemingly lighthearted way, was call out the limitations of language and how the labels &quot;naturally&quot; change over time.  If you see that as unresolved, no worries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, I hear your comments.  I think it is a little disingenuous to take a swipe like that behind the veil of Anonymous, but hey if that&#39;s what you need to do then so be it.</p>
<p>This is my blog.  It even has my name in the URL. It is a space that I pay for to post my thoughts on my journey.  It is where I work out my own salvation.  </p>
<p>What you may not realize is that this conversation of labels is one of the more important conversations in the postmodern era.  What I was doing, in a seemingly lighthearted way, was call out the limitations of language and how the labels &#8220;naturally&#8221; change over time.  If you see that as unresolved, no worries.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ann,&quot; this comment strikes me as a bit cowardly, not to mention dishonest. I don&#039;t think that Jonathan comes across as generally angry, nor do I characterize this particular post as angry. On the whole, he comes across to me as balanced -- sometimes too balanced -- as his journey leads him to ask compelling questions about life and faith. But if there is something specific that bothers you, why not point it out? And why not use your own name? Nobody is going to hunt you down for trying to speak truth in love, if that&#039;s what you&#039;re doing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for being in leadership, what is that? A person is a leader or isn&#039;t. Leadership positions don&#039;t make people leaders, and losing a position won&#039;t make someone stop being a leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ann,&#8221; this comment strikes me as a bit cowardly, not to mention dishonest. I don&#39;t think that Jonathan comes across as generally angry, nor do I characterize this particular post as angry. On the whole, he comes across to me as balanced &#8212; sometimes too balanced &#8212; as his journey leads him to ask compelling questions about life and faith. But if there is something specific that bothers you, why not point it out? And why not use your own name? Nobody is going to hunt you down for trying to speak truth in love, if that&#39;s what you&#39;re doing.</p>
<p>As for being in leadership, what is that? A person is a leader or isn&#39;t. Leadership positions don&#39;t make people leaders, and losing a position won&#39;t make someone stop being a leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Onymous</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Onymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s still unresolve in your writing.  If you&#039;ve reached a spiritual apex with your religious identity, then you don&#039;t show a maturity in dealing with the Christian tradition that you came out of.  Your very critical, with an anger towards the Christians that you were with through your previous life stages.  Your spiritual state isn&#039;t where someone in leadership needs to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>There&#39;s still unresolve in your writing.  If you&#39;ve reached a spiritual apex with your religious identity, then you don&#39;t show a maturity in dealing with the Christian tradition that you came out of.  Your very critical, with an anger towards the Christians that you were with through your previous life stages.  Your spiritual state isn&#39;t where someone in leadership needs to be.</p>
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		<title>By: fredshope</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>fredshope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like child of God or follower of Jesus. &quot;Hey&quot; you works fine too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like child of God or follower of Jesus. &#8220;Hey&#8221; you works fine too.</p>
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		<title>By: EthosProject</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>EthosProject</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good questions Jonathan...he their is a great bible discussion that happens at Carpe Diem Coffie on Tuesday Nights @ 7:30pm.  There is someone I would like you to meet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions Jonathan&#8230;he their is a great bible discussion that happens at Carpe Diem Coffie on Tuesday Nights @ 7:30pm.  There is someone I would like you to meet!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Brink</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amos, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Love it!</description>
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<p>Love it!</p>
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		<title>By: aamoslove</title>
		<link>http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/10/29/the-label-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>aamoslove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Non-denominational? Me too, once.&lt;br&gt;Why would anyone want to be “not” something?&lt;br&gt;“labeling yourself as a non-labeler.” *grin*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agree - labels - “kind of like little idols we throw out there”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have some questions about all these non-Bible labels&lt;br&gt;in our world of christiandumb and how they separate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don’t “titles/labels” say, I am, you’re not?&lt;br&gt;Don’t “titles/labels” say, we are, they’re not?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Baptist, Lutheran, Assemblies of God; --- separation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reformed, Evangelical, Charismatic; --- separation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clergy – Laity;--- separation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Leaders – Followers;--- separation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shepherds – Sheep; --- separation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Didn’t Jesus say we are all brethren? Mat 23:8&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did anyone have the “title/label” “pastor” in the Bible?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can I ask these questions?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Was anyone called “pastor” in the Bible?&lt;br&gt;Was anyone ordained a “pastor” in the Bible?&lt;br&gt;Were any congregations led by a “pastor” in the Bible?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And every pastor I’ve met also had the “title/label” “Reverend.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone have the “title/label” reverend in the Bible?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don’t “titles” become idols?&lt;br&gt;And cause walls of separation? No longer brothers?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you accept a “title/label” don’t you get a little extra with it?&lt;br&gt;Power, profit, prestige, recognition, reputation, etc.&lt;br&gt;Those things that Jesus warned about.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If someone says their “title” is not an idol,&lt;br&gt;just ask them, well if it’s not an idol then just get rid of it,&lt;br&gt;lay your title down, lay your power and prestige down,&lt;br&gt;walk away from your reputation, become a brethren,&lt;br&gt;become “a servant of Christ,”&lt;br&gt;become “a disciple of Christ.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Didn’t Jesus make himself of no reputation,&lt;br&gt;and take upon himself the form of a servant&lt;br&gt;and humble himself? Php 2:7&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don’t “ titles/labels” make a reputation whether you want it or not?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Didn’t Jesus say I receive not honor from men?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don’t “ titles/labels” create honor whether you want it or not?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did anyone have the “title/label” pastor in the Bible? Hmmm?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just wondering...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan</p>
<p>Non-denominational? Me too, once.<br />Why would anyone want to be “not” something?<br />“labeling yourself as a non-labeler.” *grin*</p>
<p>Agree &#8211; labels &#8211; “kind of like little idols we throw out there”</p>
<p>Have some questions about all these non-Bible labels<br />in our world of christiandumb and how they separate.</p>
<p>Don’t “titles/labels” say, I am, you’re not?<br />Don’t “titles/labels” say, we are, they’re not?</p>
<p>Baptist, Lutheran, Assemblies of God; &#8212; separation.</p>
<p>Reformed, Evangelical, Charismatic; &#8212; separation.</p>
<p>Clergy – Laity;&#8212; separation.</p>
<p>Leaders – Followers;&#8212; separation.</p>
<p>Shepherds – Sheep; &#8212; separation.</p>
<p>Didn’t Jesus say we are all brethren? Mat 23:8</p>
<p>Did anyone have the “title/label” “pastor” in the Bible?</p>
<p>Can I ask these questions?</p>
<p>Was anyone called “pastor” in the Bible?<br />Was anyone ordained a “pastor” in the Bible?<br />Were any congregations led by a “pastor” in the Bible?</p>
<p>And every pastor I’ve met also had the “title/label” “Reverend.”</p>
<p>Does anyone have the “title/label” reverend in the Bible?</p>
<p>Don’t “titles” become idols?<br />And cause walls of separation? No longer brothers?</p>
<p>When you accept a “title/label” don’t you get a little extra with it?<br />Power, profit, prestige, recognition, reputation, etc.<br />Those things that Jesus warned about.</p>
<p>If someone says their “title” is not an idol,<br />just ask them, well if it’s not an idol then just get rid of it,<br />lay your title down, lay your power and prestige down,<br />walk away from your reputation, become a brethren,<br />become “a servant of Christ,”<br />become “a disciple of Christ.”</p>
<p>Didn’t Jesus make himself of no reputation,<br />and take upon himself the form of a servant<br />and humble himself? Php 2:7</p>
<p>Don’t “ titles/labels” make a reputation whether you want it or not?</p>
<p>Didn’t Jesus say I receive not honor from men?</p>
<p>Don’t “ titles/labels” create honor whether you want it or not?</p>
<p>Did anyone have the “title/label” pastor in the Bible? Hmmm?</p>
<p>Just wondering&#8230;</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great, and I&#039;m with you -- a child of God.</description>
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