Just went over your site a little and Praise God,
I see there are many folks here questioning “The System.”
So I thought I’d answer your responce on this post.

I have seen the dangers of “Titles,” of “Pastors,” and of “leaders.”
Spiritual abuse for both the “leader” and those “being led” by man.
My conclusion is the word “leader” is very, very dangerous for both.

I'm not not new to “ministering healing” to those who have been abused
by those who “thought they were called to be leaders.”
Folks who've been burnt, burnt out, kicked out, or crawled out of “the religious system”
with it's leaders, spiritual authority, and other “heavy weights” put on folks shoulders.

I also spend a fair amount of time with pastors,
“so called leaders,” who can't do it anymore.

Trying to run the show, please so many masters and
realizing they didn’t even qualify to be an elder.

Trying to please the denominational leaders, the congregation and it's leaders,
and of course Jesus.
Who is often relegated to last place. Hmmm? Three masters, that's tough; Yes?
Preaching every week… and it better be good, being the CEO, the team leader, councilor, smiley face. etc. etc.

If “pastors” (as we see them today) are of God?
He's not taking very good care of His shepherds; Is He?.
And, if we don't have a contented pastor how can we have contented sheep?
Hmmm? Wonder why?

This is info from a website helping burned out Pastors.

PastorCare offers support and encouragement for pastors and their families.
At PastorCare we care about YOU and we want to help.

http://www.pastorcare.org/PastorCare/About_Us.html

According to the Francis A. Schaeffer Institute of Church Leadership (2007)
• 77% say they do “not” have a good marriage.
• 71% have felt burned out or depressed.
• 70% do not have someone they consider a close friend.
• 40% report a serious conflict with a parishioner at least once a month.
• 38% are divorced or seriously considering divorce.

According to the Ministering to Ministers Foundation…
• Over 1600 pastors in the U.S. are forced out of their positions each month.
• Nearly 1 in 4 pastors experience a forced termination at least once during their ministry.
•Only 54% of pastors go back into full-time church related positions.

Think we might have a problem Jonathan?
70% of pastors are depressed or burnt out. Don't have a close friend. Hmmm?
That's who is running the show. “Leadership?”
That's who is abusing God's sheep.
I have been both abused and the abuser. It’s not pretty.

1600 pastors a month, that's 18,000 a year, leave or are pushed out. Wow!!!
That's a lot of broken hearts, disappointments, feelings of failure, pain, abuse.

Hmmm? Pastor, is this a “Title” or “position” in the scriptures?
In the Bible, How many congregations are… led by a pastor?

Once again, How do “you” reconcile leaders
with “Jesus” telling His disciples “Not” to be called leader.
And none did…

Yes!!! Be blessed in your search for truth… Jesus.

In His Service. By His Grace.

Just went over your site a little and Praise God,
I see there are many folks here questioning “The System.”
So I thought I’d answer your responce on this post.

I have seen the dangers of “Titles,” of “Pastors,” and of “leaders.”
Spiritual abuse for both the “leader” and those “being led” by man.
My conclusion is the word “leader” is very, very dangerous for both.

I'm not not new to “ministering healing” to those who have been abused
by those who “thought they were called to be leaders.”
Folks who've been burnt, burnt out, kicked out, or crawled out of “the religious system”
with it's leaders, spiritual authority, and other “heavy weights” put on folks shoulders.

I also spend a fair amount of time with pastors,
“so called leaders,” who can't do it anymore.

Trying to run the show, please so many masters and
realizing they didn’t even qualify to be an elder.

Trying to please the denominational leaders, the congregation and it's leaders,
and of course Jesus.
Who is often relegated to last place. Hmmm? Three masters, that's tough; Yes?
Preaching every week… and it better be good, being the CEO, the team leader, councilor, smiley face. etc. etc.

If “pastors” (as we see them today) are of God?
He's not taking very good care of His shepherds; Is He?.
And, if we don't have a contented pastor how can we have contented sheep?
Hmmm? Wonder why?

This is info from a website helping burned out Pastors.

PastorCare offers support and encouragement for pastors and their families.
At PastorCare we care about YOU and we want to help.

http://www.pastorcare.org/PastorCare/About_Us.html

According to the Francis A. Schaeffer Institute of Church Leadership (2007)
• 77% say they do “not” have a good marriage.
• 71% have felt burned out or depressed.
• 70% do not have someone they consider a close friend.
• 40% report a serious conflict with a parishioner at least once a month.
• 38% are divorced or seriously considering divorce.

According to the Ministering to Ministers Foundation…
• Over 1600 pastors in the U.S. are forced out of their positions each month.
• Nearly 1 in 4 pastors experience a forced termination at least once during their ministry.
•Only 54% of pastors go back into full-time church related positions.

Think we might have a problem Jonathan?
70% of pastors are depressed or burnt out. Don't have a close friend. Hmmm?
That's who is running the show. “Leadership?”
That's who is abusing God's sheep.
I have been both abused and the abuser. It’s not pretty.

1600 pastors a month, that's 18,000 a year, leave or are pushed out. Wow!!!
That's a lot of broken hearts, disappointments, feelings of failure, pain, abuse.

Hmmm? Pastor, is this a “Title” or “position” in the scriptures?
In the Bible, How many congregations are… led by a pastor?

Once again, How do “you” reconcile leaders
with “Jesus” telling His disciples “Not” to be called leader.
And none did…

Yes!!! Be blessed in your search for truth… Jesus.

In His Service. By His Grace.

I think this shows us that God's perception of success – or at least His path to success – is vastly different than ours.

I think this shows us that God's perception of success – or at least His path to success – is vastly different than ours.

Well, guess what? The best laid plans… I'm not longer a full-time, paid Christian. But, that doesn't mean I'm not still called to serve. All I have to do now is find a revenue stream.

Well, guess what? The best laid plans… I'm not longer a full-time, paid Christian. But, that doesn't mean I'm not still called to serve. All I have to do now is find a revenue stream.