Comments on: Missional/Attractional Debate http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=missionalattractional-debate Business Development & Communications Tue, 15 May 2012 08:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-2088 Anonymous Fri, 07 May 2010 23:36:00 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-2088 Tradition Church can error on the side of clubishness.nMission Church can error on the side of 'selling without showing'nnHow about 24/7, networked/anywhere/everywhere, relationship and disciple-valued, real community, focused on empowering everyone's true purpose and calling, justice, compassion, and changing the world in a generation?nnBut what would we do with all these nice buildings (ever hear of the coming commercial property bust), and who'd pay the staff? Tentmaking anyone? Tradition Church can error on the side of clubishness.nMission Church can error on the side of ‘selling without showing’nnHow about 24/7, networked/anywhere/everywhere, relationship and disciple-valued, real community, focused on empowering everyone’s true purpose and calling, justice, compassion, and changing the world in a generation?nnBut what would we do with all these nice buildings (ever hear of the coming commercial property bust), and who’d pay the staff? Tentmaking anyone?

]]> By: michaelblast http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-33 michaelblast Fri, 07 May 2010 21:36:13 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-33 Tradition Church can error on the side of clubishness.<br>Mission Church can error on the side of 'selling without showing'<br><br>How about 24/7, networked/anywhere/everywhere, relationship and disciple-valued, real community, focused on empowering everyone's true purpose and calling, justice, compassion, and changing the world in a generation?<br><br>But what would we do with all these nice buildings (ever hear of the coming commercial property bust), and who'd pay the staff? Tentmaking anyone? Tradition Church can error on the side of clubishness.
Mission Church can error on the side of 'selling without showing'

How about 24/7, networked/anywhere/everywhere, relationship and disciple-valued, real community, focused on empowering everyone's true purpose and calling, justice, compassion, and changing the world in a generation?

But what would we do with all these nice buildings (ever hear of the coming commercial property bust), and who'd pay the staff? Tentmaking anyone?

]]> By: michaelblast http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-1075 michaelblast Fri, 07 May 2010 21:36:13 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-1075 Tradition Church can error on the side of clubishness.<br>Mission Church can error on the side of 'selling without showing'<br><br>How about 24/7, networked/anywhere/everywhere, relationship and disciple-valued, real community, focused on empowering everyone's true purpose and calling, justice, compassion, and changing the world in a generation?<br><br>But what would we do with all these nice buildings (ever hear of the coming commercial property bust), and who'd pay the staff? Tentmaking anyone? Tradition Church can error on the side of clubishness.
Mission Church can error on the side of 'selling without showing'

How about 24/7, networked/anywhere/everywhere, relationship and disciple-valued, real community, focused on empowering everyone's true purpose and calling, justice, compassion, and changing the world in a generation?

But what would we do with all these nice buildings (ever hear of the coming commercial property bust), and who'd pay the staff? Tentmaking anyone?

]]> By: Jonathan Brink http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-32 Jonathan Brink Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:15:18 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-32 What was interesting for my tribe is that it actually began when a group of us said, What did Jesus do. We're tired of this thing we do on Sundays. Our pastor had a men's retreat and the group decided to continue the dialog. We were yearning for a deeper healing journey. What was interesting for my tribe is that it actually began when a group of us said, What did Jesus do. We're tired of this thing we do on Sundays. Our pastor had a men's retreat and the group decided to continue the dialog. We were yearning for a deeper healing journey.

]]> By: Jonathan Brink http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-1077 Jonathan Brink Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:15:18 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-1077 What was interesting for my tribe is that it actually began when a group of us said, What did Jesus do. We're tired of this thing we do on Sundays. Our pastor had a men's retreat and the group decided to continue the dialog. We were yearning for a deeper healing journey. What was interesting for my tribe is that it actually began when a group of us said, What did Jesus do. We're tired of this thing we do on Sundays. Our pastor had a men's retreat and the group decided to continue the dialog. We were yearning for a deeper healing journey.

]]> By: ypguybrit http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-31 ypguybrit Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:28:08 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-31 i really like your thoughts here. I'm going to have to come back and re-read some of this. got my brain going. thanks Jonathan. Brings to mind a conversation i was having with some pastors awhile back. 'The Gathering should not produce a community, but a community should come into a Gathering" trying to flesh out a communal concept of Church, Community, and true worship. where does it begin? i really like your thoughts here. I'm going to have to come back and re-read some of this. got my brain going. thanks Jonathan. Brings to mind a conversation i was having with some pastors awhile back. 'The Gathering should not produce a community, but a community should come into a Gathering” trying to flesh out a communal concept of Church, Community, and true worship. where does it begin?

]]> By: ypguybrit http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-1076 ypguybrit Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:28:08 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-1076 i really like your thoughts here. I'm going to have to come back and re-read some of this. got my brain going. thanks Jonathan. Brings to mind a conversation i was having with some pastors awhile back. 'The Gathering should not produce a community, but a community should come into a Gathering" trying to flesh out a communal concept of Church, Community, and true worship. where does it begin? i really like your thoughts here. I'm going to have to come back and re-read some of this. got my brain going. thanks Jonathan. Brings to mind a conversation i was having with some pastors awhile back. 'The Gathering should not produce a community, but a community should come into a Gathering” trying to flesh out a communal concept of Church, Community, and true worship. where does it begin?

]]> By: tangentrider http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-30 tangentrider Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:31:59 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-30 Jonathan,<br><br>Insightful post. It got me thinking about the sorts of things we ought to be doing in the attractional phase. It is all too easy to go to the business world for marketing insight, but, for a number of reasons too numerous and cranky to spell out, I'd rather not go there. So, I went instead to some issues we're having in our newly re-thought ministry and turned them into practices/goals.<br>- We gather to learn engagement. <br>- We gather to learn passion. <br>- We gather to make space for growth. <br>There is, of course, much more, but I do thank you for the thought fodder (both in this post and in many others).<br><br>- Laura Jonathan,

Insightful post. It got me thinking about the sorts of things we ought to be doing in the attractional phase. It is all too easy to go to the business world for marketing insight, but, for a number of reasons too numerous and cranky to spell out, I'd rather not go there. So, I went instead to some issues we're having in our newly re-thought ministry and turned them into practices/goals.
- We gather to learn engagement.
- We gather to learn passion.
- We gather to make space for growth.
There is, of course, much more, but I do thank you for the thought fodder (both in this post and in many others).

- Laura

]]> By: tangentrider http://jonathanbrink.com/2009/05/04/missionalattractional-debate/#comment-1078 tangentrider Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:31:59 +0000 http://jonathanbrink.com/?p=37#comment-1078 Jonathan,<br><br>Insightful post. It got me thinking about the sorts of things we ought to be doing in the attractional phase. It is all too easy to go to the business world for marketing insight, but, for a number of reasons too numerous and cranky to spell out, I'd rather not go there. So, I went instead to some issues we're having in our newly re-thought ministry and turned them into practices/goals.<br>- We gather to learn engagement. <br>- We gather to learn passion. <br>- We gather to make space for growth. <br>There is, of course, much more, but I do thank you for the thought fodder (both in this post and in many others).<br><br>- Laura Jonathan,

Insightful post. It got me thinking about the sorts of things we ought to be doing in the attractional phase. It is all too easy to go to the business world for marketing insight, but, for a number of reasons too numerous and cranky to spell out, I'd rather not go there. So, I went instead to some issues we're having in our newly re-thought ministry and turned them into practices/goals.
- We gather to learn engagement.
- We gather to learn passion.
- We gather to make space for growth.
There is, of course, much more, but I do thank you for the thought fodder (both in this post and in many others).

- Laura

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